Unsigned518 - Episode 151 - Zoo Green 6

[00:00:01] Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73. [00:00:03] Speaker B: He loves Far Cry music. The 19th jabbing in the dazzle jazz. It's motherfucking Andy Scott, motherfucker. Cause here he comes Andy SC. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Welcome. [00:00:27] Speaker C: To Unsigned Fight 518 I'm here with Fox and Shy of Zoo Green 6. How's it going? [00:00:33] Speaker A: What's up? What's up? [00:00:34] Speaker D: What's going on? What's going on? [00:00:36] Speaker C: You know I am. We were talking like a little bit and I said how. I don't really do research, you know, I. But I have checked out the socials and I do know the. That there's music and wrestling and it's. It's more than just like kind of one thing. I just want to begin the conversation with I guess the. The music side of things. And then we'll just see where it goes. So it. The band is just the two of you, correct? [00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean sometimes we play live, we have fill ins but you know, sometimes they can't get things right. So. [00:01:11] Speaker C: And then so you do Fox, your vocals and vocals, guitar, if there's a. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Keyboard part, other guitar, the next guitar, bas, anything that's not a drum. [00:01:26] Speaker C: And then shy, you do all the. [00:01:28] Speaker D: I'm doing the drums, the backup vocal, some of the main vocal. But mostly I handle the drums and the beat and laying down like that. [00:01:40] Speaker C: And how long have you been like, how long has. Has the band been in existence? [00:01:45] Speaker A: This band in particular with me and him? Four years, right after Covid or during whatever. During COVID But we've been in bands together since 2003. [00:01:58] Speaker C: Oh wow. Okay. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Like Zoo Green 6, the name it came from was from my best friend Andrew passed away. We made it up in high school because he was playing bass. And I want to make music and I'm like, hey, I just rap. I want to play something. And I was like, hey, let's do stuff together. Let's be Zoo Green 6. And he was like, what the hell is that? I said, I don't know. Sounds cool. It's 2002. Let's rock. And then like Shaq would come over and play some stuff or like just. We just mess around making silly songs when you're 18, 17. And then we had a band called Third Day Risen. 2003. We played everywhere. Like locally in Albany. [00:02:38] Speaker D: Albany, Troy Valentine, Saratoga. Winners. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah, winners. The Hudson Duster, Northern Lights. We played all that shit back in the day. Yeah. And then did nothing. I've been wrestling. And then I started making some jams when my little cousin was like, 13 years old. So I was like, yo, this riff sounds pretty cool. And then I messaged him with it, and I was like, hey, we can make some wrestling songs and try to sell it. Because I wrestle. And I was like, what do you think? And then he's like, yo, let's try it. So I ordered an electric drum set overnight, right? And the next day we started working on stuff and then slowly progressed from trying stuff to like. Because I wasn't a guitar player at all, I was just like, I can play some stuff, right? I mimicked my friend stuff. Or I learned our old band songs. Okay, we might need a rhythm. I can power. I only play power gourd. So if you're someone out there listening, like, I want to only play power chords. You can do it. It'll happen. [00:03:40] Speaker C: Yeah, that's the best way to do it. [00:03:41] Speaker A: All I play is power cords, really. And then we were doing everything, and I was like, yo, sounds all right. And then I printed out a sheet that had every note on the neck and hung it around my apartment where we jam and write. So whenever I walk around playing, I can look at and be like, oh, maybe I can go here. And then after eventually, like, sinking into what we are, I'm like, oh, I can add a lead. I'm starting to get pretty good. So I started to get pretty good over the last four years of doing stuff, but I'd rather just rhyme. Because we do rap, Rap rock. We will do every production value you can. Anything that can make it sound amazing. Like if we got to mute something out so it's like we're doing the underwater sounds. Yeah. I bought myself a 500 vocal pedal because I can't really sing that well. But with that vocal pedal, I can kind of hit the auto tune on there. [00:04:33] Speaker C: I also have a vocal pedal pad that does the fifth and the thirds and harmonies. [00:04:38] Speaker A: Does all like, don't make it work. And we, we. I record everything and write everything in my apartment. Like, we c called our first demo, our first album Early Drive. Cuz we both live in the same housing complex. Like, same road into our place is Early Drive. So, yo, call it that. We're here. We write it here. We recorded here. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and call it that. [00:05:01] Speaker D: I haven't played an acoustic set since COVID Yeah, I'm still on Covid time, y'all. [00:05:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm, you know, I want to, like, talk a little bit about, like, the electric drop, you know, because I'm. My experience with percussion. Like, I played Percussion. Back in high school, in the fucking 80s, you know, I was in the back. But like, seeing what can be done with electric trumps these days, right? Blows my fucking mind. Like how you can like literally dial in. Oh, I want this exact snare tuned exactly like this to be here. Like, has that just opened up a ton of for you? [00:05:39] Speaker A: Because, like, we have. Most of our stuff is he plays like a. He can play. He can play any drum anyway, but like hip hop drum. So we can be like, yo, we need this bass to be. [00:05:50] Speaker C: And he could change it mid song, right? [00:05:52] Speaker A: And when we want to go play, we actually have some. Where we'll play and on the bridge, he'll click it over and it's a different set, you know, but playing live, he just picked up the set, weighs five pounds, put it in the back, and we just plug it into. [00:06:05] Speaker D: It's so much easier to travel with than plugging in or bringing your hardware five piece, your drum rack. So I was. I was just like, really relieved because I'm like, oh, this is different. And then because I got the whole thing EQ'd, I'm giving the sound guy a real break, right? [00:06:27] Speaker C: Because he doesn't have to catch it. [00:06:28] Speaker D: Acoustically through a mic and shit when we do shows. I mean, I get so much love from the sound guys and other bands because they're like, yo, you got those things to sound good. How. How do you do that? [00:06:41] Speaker C: And is it something like with the electric drums, is it something that you can have it like a different EQ for different venues and shit? Like, can you set it? [00:06:52] Speaker D: Yes, you can. Wow. You can EQ it to your environment so that if you want a little bit more noise, you can make the change in correction for that based on if you got a small venue or big venue or lots of people or not a lot of people. But it's definitely made because the modulator that's on the. [00:07:16] Speaker A: What the hell is it an alias? It was like 500 bucks when I bought it. I was like, I'm overnighting it over here, let's go. And then of course, now you can get it for 300 bucks at Walmart. [00:07:24] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:07:24] Speaker A: So a lot of the gimmick with the band that we started was I can do a rock riff. Ba ba ba ba ba ba. You play awesome drums and I'm a pretty goddamn good rapper. Let's just put that together, get some sick beats, some rhymes, and a heavy riff, and let's go. So a lot of our things are minimum. Like, we use pro Tools. But it's pro tools first because I am paying for it. And we. And we only get 15 tracks to like make all this shit. So we're like, we're limited to make it work, but we're making it work. I did get a bunch of plugins that I'm like, all right, I'm going to, you know, change the bass. Made it awesome. But when I updated my laptop, they disappeared. So I'm like, ah, well, that sucks. But a lot of things that we have done, like there's people out there who use like a $2,500 drum set, like electric, which will probably be dope. But we're with the minimalist. We kind of want to be the inspiration for how we were when we started. Like 17 years old. Like, I'm gonna be 40 next summer. Like when we started playing, like, oh man, we were getting stuff from Goodwill, like, all these things. We were getting the worst guitars, first act, all this shit. So we kind of want to someone who discovers us somewhere like, hey, these guys are using a twenty, like a hundred dollar Amazon guitar. That's garbage. And making this quality, right? Like, yeah. Oh, there's only two of them. It's all about the layers, people. It's about the. [00:08:57] Speaker C: It is, yeah. [00:08:58] Speaker A: And like, yeah. So we want to. We started doing that, like, hey, let's just make simple shit. And like I said I wasn't anything special. Like, I was just playing on his stuff. And then we grew, grew and was like, hey, what if we tried doing some piano in this part? What if we tried singing on here? What if we tried this? And then it just, you know, it grew from that of like simplicity. Is that the word to like making verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, chorus to like, oh, this is a bridge that has like a dynamic change in it. [00:09:29] Speaker C: And plus it frees you from being like. And I've said, you know how you said you were just fucking around and like grabbing. Like, I've always said that's in my opinion, the way to go. As opposed to learning the structure and how everything is supposed to in theory first, you can learn that later. But I've always said it's just pick a fucking instrument up and just start messing around with it, because that's how you get your own. [00:09:53] Speaker D: You know what I always said too? The song will write itself. [00:09:57] Speaker C: Right. [00:09:58] Speaker D: It ends up doing that all the time anyway. So you're just applying yourself to the song that's already written. It's already done. [00:10:07] Speaker C: Yeah. And I mean, if you want to, you know, hone that in and learn some theory later on. But, I mean, again, I ain't learning anything. Perfect. But that's fucking perfect. You know what I mean? Because that's. Now that's your shit that you created. [00:10:20] Speaker D: Colonel Can I touch you on that, though? [00:10:22] Speaker A: But, like, so a lot of times we'll. We'll just be jamming around. I'll play on a riff, and he'll play something. I'd be like, yo, da, da, da. And we can't. We. Like I said, we've been playing together for so long that we kind of just look. We have to look. Yo, breakdown. Oh, we know where to go into. We know the style. We're gonna. If I say yo, Rappy, he'll know to switch it from going to, like, boom pop. Boom pop to, like, you don't break it down. It always goes with the vocals of how we're going with it. And, like, so there's times we'll just record us, we'll make a song, and then we'll get it completely done. And by completely done, I mean we know where we have one guitar and the drum, and we're going straight through. Like, most of our. Is four minutes. [00:11:05] Speaker D: Facts. [00:11:06] Speaker A: No, three. Three minutes and 30 seconds. We go four minutes. You're getting an epic banger as what we think, you know? I mean, if we can't get you in and in three minutes and you're like, yo, I want to hit. I want to play that again. It wasn't enough. You know what I mean? So we'll record the drums, and then he'll bounce, and it's just. I'll sit at home, and I'm like, all right, what could I do? I'll record the first guitar down that we wrote the song with, throw on the second one. And then I'm like, oh, maybe there's a lead here. Maybe there's this. Here's. Let me put the bass in. Maybe the bass needs a. [00:11:36] Speaker C: Like, open it up as you're listening to it. [00:11:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not. Only thing that's written is that one riff and how we play the chorus and maybe a bridge. We have the same formula. Intro, verse, chorus, verse. In Linkin park style. Because I, you know, all my shits, like Lincoln Park, Limp Bizkit, icp. I mean, like, that's my groups that I liked. And so we make that. And then I'll go into the writing process where it's like, hey, I added this in there. And he doesn't even know what the song sounds like. I'm like, hey, what do you think about this? And then I'll send it to him. Oh, that's. That's dope. And then he'll come in the next time we jam. Hey, what if we tried cutting this out? Or like, I'll cut a piece of the bass out, throw on an effect. Then, you know, all the production comes in. [00:12:18] Speaker D: Production starts now. [00:12:19] Speaker C: And you do all the production. The two of you. [00:12:22] Speaker A: The two of us. As in me? Yeah, he just drums. But yeah, yeah, like, I am doing everything as far as the mixing the china. Like, hey, what if the guitar like drowns out here? Clip his drums out and be like, hey, are you okay with me clipping this little fill you have and putting an effect on it? [00:12:42] Speaker C: And is that something that you like, learned on your own or is that like the production side of shit is. [00:12:48] Speaker D: Pretty much, you know, like, he'll act, he'll ask me, should I turn this guitar down? Should I keep the drum here? You know, so we kind of just bounce off each other, like, learn. Okay, what will make. What's going to take this song to the next level? If I gotta be quiet here, I'll do it for the overall of the song to make the song. Or if he has to back off somewhere and let like a drum shine or a bass note shine, then we'll do that. Because it's all about serving the best. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Song for the song. Yeah. Cuz like we've always said, we have a giant whiteboard in my apartment that we have listed album live and then live with just me and him playing. Like, we have a set of songs that me and him can just go and play. Just guitar, guitar and drums and vocals and it'd be good, right? [00:13:41] Speaker D: Right. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Then we have one where, hey, we need to grab our buddies who play guitar, play bass and jump in as a full band. Yeah. And then we have ones that are going to be like, oh, this is just an album song. Because we are never playing this live. It's too much like, I can't. I'm going to get a keyboard. I need this. I need a. [00:13:54] Speaker C: But that's great to have that versatility. [00:13:57] Speaker A: You know, like, and I, I feel like, like I said earlier was the inspiration of, oh, they're like a limited band and they're doing all of this. Right. Because it opens up the creativity, you know what I mean? Like, so when we're jamming and playing, he'll just play something and I'll jump on it and then at the same time, I'm writing to what he's playing, but he's writing to what I'm playing. So we're just, hey, if this sounds good, we're going, and then we'll go and, hey, let's cut this out. Let's do this. Hey, what if we throw a vocal on this? What if we. A lot of our things first. When we got. I got the shitty guitar and had a whammy bar, I said, all right, we're gonna have riffs, rhymes, and a whammy bar, you know, because, like, that's gonna make it sound dope. So a lot of our songs you will hear, you know, like, on a rap song, you hear like a tag. Like, Mike Will made it. They have their tag, right? So a lot of our songs, when it goes into, like, a heavy part, I just do a slide on the high E and you hear. And it brings everything, you know, oh, shit's gonna happen right now. And I like it. Let's leave it in. Like, we do turntables on the strings because I don't have them yet, but a little bit of gimmick on top and it sounds pretty good. We'll beat box on it. Put up. Yeah. [00:15:07] Speaker C: You know, Tom Morello basically made his whole career out of making it sound like anything but a guitar. [00:15:12] Speaker A: And what's funny is, I didn't even know that until someone brought up to me and I was like, oh, I'm just doing it because. Because I'm limited. I'm like, I'm just limited. Like, I'm taking. I got keys and locks and stuff that I'm doing bass slides with and. Or guitar slides. I'm like, what's going to sound cool here that we can, like Paul Heyman, for any of the wrestling fans out there for ECW when they were doing shitty because they can't compete with WF's production. Accentuate the positive, hide the negative, right? What's the negative in the band? We don't have a full band. [00:15:43] Speaker D: No. [00:15:43] Speaker A: What's the positive? Oh, well, I'm pretty open up creative. He's pretty open creative. [00:15:47] Speaker D: And we're fucking good. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Bottle slide in here. Why? I don't know. It sounds cool. Like, we have a song, we'll play it later, called the Window. And it was just a song that we made by accident. Kind of like I just hit like, a key or a note. I mean, or whatever you musicians call it. Fucking Dan. Dan. And then I was like, yo, I'm gonna throw the auto on and I'm just gonna try to sing this shit. And then the Second verse is completely different from the rest of the song. It's like a heavy rap dun dun dun. And it's like what the hell? And then it goes to being super poppy. And then I put a solo in there and I'm like, I don't solo, I don't put leads in. [00:16:24] Speaker D: Oh, we about to do that though. [00:16:25] Speaker A: And then we mix it and it sounds good. It's all poppy and like I wanna like it's goofy, but it's like a song that you're like, oh, this has a. It comes in heavy, it's boppy. Cuz we have to play everything with. [00:16:38] Speaker D: A bop, you know, it's a serious song. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah, like heartbreaking love. But it's just how we're doing it. Like it's called Window because. And I wrote like the hook like 12 years ago and I was like, oh, this will sound good. Cuz we've written songs for our bands that we have probably 800 songs throughout 20 years, you know what I'm saying? Of things that. But no one's heard them. Because we've always been in bands with people that weren't as serious or stuff that happened in life. So it's like, well no one's heard it. Why would I waste that creativity on that? You know what I mean? So we put some stuff out and then like we were going to call it Amy's Window because one of the lime is Chasing Amy. Chasing Amy, you know, Kevin Smith movie and the whole premise, the whole speech. I'm like, oh, you know, you're trying to find a good girl but you been you it up and now you're chasing Amy. So I was like what everyone else. So the working. Working title. That song was Amy Working title. I also act so working title for movies and stuff. They have like. So was Amy's Window. So Amy's Windows too much the window. Boom. Cuz it's kind of like John Cusack. I'm holding a boombox out your window. And then we just put everything in and it. Every time I listen to him, like I said, I'm so like yeah, we made that dude. Because it's like oh shit, we made that. Like it's cool to me, you know. [00:17:55] Speaker C: Well, I think we should probably hear a song. [00:17:58] Speaker A: This is Zoo Green 6 called the Window. [00:18:02] Speaker C: All right, let's check out Window and they'll be right back to talk some more with Fox and shy of Zoo Green 6. [00:18:08] Speaker B: You're saying that I'm lazy But I've. [00:18:12] Speaker A: Been chasing Amy Running in these circles. [00:18:17] Speaker B: I made a world since someone is getting crazy sun is ticking, baby, the candles burning and you and I our gas salary you call me one time just to say hello you text me every night when you're alone but you don't miss a b when I call your phone, I'm holding on my phone I'm standing out your window, you window I'm standing at your window you in love I'm standing at your window I. [00:19:04] Speaker A: Remember the moment precisely when I met. [00:19:06] Speaker B: You Buried in my mind there's no way I could forget you Nobody broke. [00:19:10] Speaker A: These walls for some reason I let. [00:19:12] Speaker B: You it told me you wanted to fall but it's not for me to catch you you would rather hit the ground you don't face fore impact hoping to smash your face is like an H. Get back, get back. Give us some room. I pray whoever smile to help her through. You go here all the time just to say hello. You text me every night wa I'm alone but you don't need to back when I call your phone I'm holding on my own mouth and I'm staring out your window, your window I'm staring out your window, your window I'm staring out your window Shake it Amazing but I'll be chasing. Why can't I let her go? [00:20:13] Speaker A: Is it because this is all I know? [00:20:15] Speaker B: When I'm sick, I'm sick. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Why can't. [00:20:21] Speaker B: I let her go? [00:20:22] Speaker A: Is it because this is all I know? When I'm sick, I'm sick. [00:20:30] Speaker B: Why can't I let her go? Is it because this is all I know? And I I'm sing, I'm sing sing you why can't I let her go? Is it because this is all I know? Loving you. You. [00:21:41] Speaker C: All right? So that was The Window Zoo Green 6 and you know, we were saying while the song was playing that, you know, not only do you have music and wrestling, but you've done some acting and your music's been featured in films. But I guess tell me about the acting side of things because that's some. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Interesting stuff for those listening who do know me, if you're in the 51 8, you've probably heard of Firework, Fox Vineyard, you've heard of me around or dated somebody you know or whatever. Swipe in and write in it. Swipe right the light. But yeah, so like I've acted in some shit and we have some small films. Amazon prime you can find modern love episode 2 season 4 reverse that season 2 episode 4 tell them in a bunch of scenes as. But you can only see me in a few. I have a SAG credit, though. SAG voucher for Apple TV show called Severance. I was in a scene. I was in a scene with Adam Scott. You may have known him from such things. Ben Wyatt, Boy Meets World. Yeah, tell him Ben Wyatt on Rec. Parks and Rec. Tell him and all that stuff. But like, we did a couple years ago, I did a short film called Pizza Face Kill Livery, and it's on YouTube. There's a lot of pizza face on YouTube. But if you search Pizza Face Kill that one out. [00:23:11] Speaker D: Check that one out. [00:23:12] Speaker A: You'll. You'll find it. It's like 13 minutes long. [00:23:15] Speaker D: Awesome soundtrack. [00:23:17] Speaker A: So, yeah, as I got that role because I really liked my little audition, I just went into my Hulk Hogan type of voice. Yeah, brother. So as one of our. One of my gimmicks to do is like, hey, if I'm gonna be in your movie or your show or whatever, I've also been in some music videos. Chris Webby, Shout Out. I'm always like, hey, my band can make some tunes if you want, if you need something. So the particular movie, Pizza Face was. So it's about this kid who really likes this girl, and I'm the asshole boyfriend. And so, like, I kind of punk him out. And then the kid ends up delivering a pizza to a witch, and he steals her book and, like, puts a spell on me and turns me into a pizza guy. So I'm like this demon pizza where they had, like, a cool thing. It kind of looks like Pizza the Hut. But the gimmick they had, like, my jaw could actually move. The pizza face guy. And it was like a legit, like. [00:24:19] Speaker D: Thing covered in cheese. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Yeah, like, we filmed it down in Long Island. A lot of the kids who did it were, like, students at. Was that half stepper down there. Hot stepper. What's that song? Hey, but. Or Hofstra. Is that what it's called Down Long Island, The College. So. And I was like, hey, we could make a theme song, and we could do this. And they needed one of the scenes, had the witch doing her spell, and I was like, yo, we could make something. And on the $300amp, I have shout out to Spider 30. [00:24:55] Speaker C: Yeah, fucking Spider. [00:24:57] Speaker A: They have. [00:24:57] Speaker D: We need an update. [00:24:58] Speaker A: They have the synth lead, and I just hit three notes. And then I was like, yo, make a beat with it. [00:25:06] Speaker D: I said, it needs cowbell. [00:25:08] Speaker A: Put a beat on there. We had all this stuff going. [00:25:11] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:25:11] Speaker A: And then I sent it to him. And then like in the flick, Homies doing the spell. And there's our song in the background. [00:25:18] Speaker C: So it's like score and sound design. [00:25:21] Speaker A: And then I was like. So we just started messing around with a pot. Like a three chord riff. I was like, yo, we need a breakdown at the end. Let's have it be like a metal breakdown, but put a cowbell in there. Yeah, we'll just do weird vocals. So like we made a song and I said send it to the director of the movie. And I was like, hey man, what do you think about this? [00:25:42] Speaker D: What you. [00:25:43] Speaker A: He's like, yo, this is amazing. I love it. You know, Sent me some money, added my money to what he was paying me for the thing. And then I got a IMDb composer credit. So add that to the IMDb and so it's the intro of the song, I mean the movie. And then at the end it plays in the credits. And then while I was on set, they're filming. I had the iPhone going and I'm just filming everybody. And as I had time to sit around, I edit it. So there is a music video. If you type in Zoo Green six Pizza Face, you'll see a music video. It's fun, it's goofy, it's silly, it's whatever. But yeah, so we get like that. And we also have. I did another independent film called My Own Worst Enemy. It's hard to find on YouTube because everything that comes up with that title. [00:26:32] Speaker C: My worst song. [00:26:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you're gonna band. [00:26:35] Speaker D: It's a lot. [00:26:35] Speaker A: But like we made the song for that. And that's just a Rift Omega cuz I played Omega man. Yeah. So like the gimmick was in the movie was the writer of a comic book is about to get fired, but he takes a pill and drinks at the same time. So he goes into like this weird dream where his creation, me came to life trying to help him thing. So we made the song and like hell and put it in the credits. So there's our name and they in the. They both won like a. An award for like they're nothing like an Oscar or anything, but it's still an award. Cool thing. [00:27:12] Speaker C: That's cooler shit like to me like I'm a low budget horror guy. Like I love low budget horror movies and shit. And like I would way rather like be like what you made a 17 minute movie that like won awards? That's fucking amazing. [00:27:24] Speaker A: It's even below a low budget. [00:27:26] Speaker C: That's great. [00:27:28] Speaker A: And like. But it was cool to be like give our input and it made us feel good when like Cuz I always go through a thing. We're talking on the way here, like, yeah, man, we have, we have done nothing. I always do that for wrestling too. Like, yeah, I haven't done anything, man. It's been 15 years, I haven't done anything. But then you realize when you make your list of things you have done, you're like, oh shit. So I can be like Zoo Green 6. There's two of us. We've edited, produced, record, rerecord it, done. And we got our shit in movies, we got our songs out, we've played shows. And as a wrestler, I'm going to be in a video game. Shout out to the wrestle code. Tell me more about that same thing. I'm like, hey brother, what do you need? Do you need some songs? And he was like, yeah, I got you, I would love some. So cover, what do you got? So we sent him some stuff. He's like, yo, I love this. So it's gonna be in the, you know, when you're going through like the screen and stuff, it'll be in the, in the game. And so we, so now as two dudes who make songs in an apartment, we got our songs gonna be in a video game. So like you can do stuff, you know, and still be like, oh shit, like we actually are doing stuff. Even if you're not like winning an Oscar or Emmy or whatever they're called facts. [00:28:38] Speaker C: But it is just the, the art of doing it is an art in itself, you know, like you can sit around and say, damn, I wish I could make songs. Or you could or you can do it, do it like with what you fucking have available, right? And then that rolls into something else, right? [00:28:54] Speaker D: Like you start growing time and you start growing. [00:28:58] Speaker C: Yeah. And I mean like, you know, my band started as two dudes with two acoustic guitars and now we're a five piece recording a fucking punk album. And like we've done videos, shout out to funk, ride like 40 something gigs with like 70 other bands. And like, you know, five years ago we were just two ding dongs sitting in the corner of a fucking brewery playing like petty songs. [00:29:20] Speaker A: And that's kind of like what we were thinking for like 25. I was like, yo, we what? What can we do? Like everyone has their new year, new me type of blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, we spent four years writing songs, re recording songs we played. We played two shows this year because like I said to get a show and figure it out, to get people to come in to learn the songs. And then takes a little bit of time. Yeah. Even though that we play. Like I said, like we have just a riff going and some rhyme. All the little nuances that are in the songs are kind of difficult. [00:29:51] Speaker C: Right. [00:29:52] Speaker A: Like we. My one bass player that we grew up playing with, he was like, you guys are doing too much in the song. And I'm like, hey, I don't know if it's too much, but it too much maybe. I doubt it's not the. Like, I don't think we are. But we have changes because we keep all the songs interesting and I want them to be hyped up. But then there are little things where like maybe the bass instead of going do do do do do do do do do do do do it's going do do do do do. A baseline, the lead in the stuff. And like. [00:30:25] Speaker C: But that's important to the song. [00:30:27] Speaker D: We kind of use the same premises for every song. But we. We add a little something else so it doesn't sound the same. And do a lot of chopping, repackage and. But you'll never. If you really listen to our stuff, you'll notice. But if you don't, you won't even notice it. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Right. Like one of the. [00:30:49] Speaker D: That's how beautiful it is. [00:30:50] Speaker A: One of the secrets will drop is a lot of our songs. You'll hear like a verse going with just a guitar going bomb, bomb. Like the drums are just killing it and the guitars are dun dun dun dun dun. Because it's like what can I do live and still rhyme. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Right? [00:31:07] Speaker A: And because rhyming and playing guitar and still play guitar. Yeah. A lot of the shit we have, we'll have a bum bump, bump the bump. Something simple. But I'll let the bass go and like carry it. But like a lot of just drum. But then when the hook comes in, you know, it's a strum chord and we can do some shit over it and there's like whatever. But like. So it's all there to keep it simple, stupid. Yeah, keep it simple, stupid. Kiss Method man. [00:31:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker A: And then like so like we'll have bass drops and stuff. That to me. Cuz I love dubstep bass drops, you know, the drop. How can we do this live? I always put a little bass light in it and turn the electric drum on a boom, you know, or whatever. We gotta do like we have the snares that have the reverb on it. [00:31:52] Speaker D: We drop the kick and turn up the tom. I go stadium time. See, this is the shit you can get into. If you get an electric. Don't fall for those punks who just want to play acoustic. Expand your horizons. Drummers, please, please. You'll come back to this interview and you'll say, shy. Thank you. That you saved my marriage. Yes, Yes, I saved marriages. [00:32:21] Speaker C: So I think we should probably hear another tune. What one do you have this time? [00:32:26] Speaker A: This song is one that's going to be in the game. I've made my entrance to it, and everyone can attest to it. There is a video on YouTube as well. [00:32:34] Speaker D: Check that out. [00:32:35] Speaker A: It's called 10 Toes Down. And just exactly what you think it's going to be. [00:32:40] Speaker D: Balls to the ground. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just literally, it's just a fun workout fighting song. And if you like. What do they always compare? So if you like Limp Bizkit or Lincoln Park Papa roach, anything from 2001, like, cargo shorts are going, yep, you're gonna love it. It's just like a. Like I said, we have a bop bop and a drum beat. We got bass drops, we got chorus, we got turntable scratching with the shirts, and we got rap. So a lot of bands will rap and they'll be like, hey, here's the thing. I got a carpet. I want to go to the market. And even that's a heavy bar that somebody probably wouldn't even think to use. They just use Star Car bar. But, like, when I'm rhyming, I make sure to put limericks in. We have, like, real structure in the. The lyrics and the songs. Like, so when people like, oh, they're just like rhyming elementary. Like, no, no. Oh, they're actually. They're actually. [00:33:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:33:33] Speaker A: Like I said, all I got is a good rhyme, you know? Well, that's a good rhyme. Over the heavy guitar and a sick drum and tell them about your rhyme book. Yeah. Like, no. Can't let it all secrets out. Right? 10 toes down. Enjoy it. It's fun, it's hype, it's bufu. Enjoy it. [00:33:51] Speaker C: All right, let's listen to 10 toes down, Zoo Green 6. And then we'll be right back to wrap it up. [00:34:47] Speaker B: I don't care who the fuck you are. Cause I'm down to fight them all. Knock, knock who? We don't know what you afraid of. I thought you wanted to see what bitch is made of. Was that your plan to stand? You wanna throw him? I can't be like you get to. [00:35:02] Speaker A: Sing this lesson best of days or. [00:35:03] Speaker B: So I got a feeling all day, every day it's safe to say you shouldn't say the hell I hate going down and I'm ready to brawl? Let's hook up a cut to the door? I don't care who the you are? Cause I'm down to fight them? Cause I'm head on down and I'm ready to roar? Let's walk up a cut to the jaw? I don't care who the you are? Cause I'm down to fight that? Oh cuz I'm dead? Toes down Cuz I'm head toes down Cuz I'm down? Cuz I'm down? Cuz I'm down? Cuz I 10 toes down. [00:36:51] Speaker C: All right, that was 10 toes down. Zoo, green six and fox and Chai. I want to thank you, dude so much for coming out and doing this. It's been a very cool episode and I've got a lot of to check out between the music, the wrestling, and the movies and the video games. So I'm gonna be busy doing. I do my research after. After I have the guests on. [00:37:12] Speaker D: Thanks for having me. [00:37:13] Speaker C: But, you know, before we go, I just wanted to give you guys the chance to say what I refer to as your gratitude. So Fox start with you. [00:37:21] Speaker A: I'm actually just looking at your carpet and one of the things look like a clown face right there. I don't know if that's supposed to paranoia. Yeah, right there. Look right by where the shirt is. Yeah, it looks like Shaggy. So shout out to the wicked clowns. Yeah, you can find Fox vineyard everywhere. Foxx V I N Y E R. If you like wrestling, you can look at YouTube. I got some AW impact NWA so shout out to Billy Corrigan in the NWA if you want to watch me, watch me wrestle. Locally, we got a huge show January 4th in Poughkeepsie. I don't know when this airs, but if it's the main event, right there is NWA Tom Latimer versus TNA champion Nick Nemeth, formerly Dolph Ziggler. And then there's a big rumble we got rate a lot of our shows for Dynasty. Wrestling is like Empire live nice, where you can find some music and then wrestling there. You can check out some other flicks that I've been in on YouTube at Pizza Face delivery or my own worst enemy. Just type in my own worst enemy student film or something. It probably will come up and just give a shout out to Shaq for being the drummer who's making me sound good. Shout out to my layers and vocal pedals. Shout out to me for being amazing styles. 13 trying to rhyme, huh? And everyone else who's like, given the two piece Zoo Green a chance to like, rock and rap and hold boomboxes out people's windows, shout out to Bumble. [00:38:57] Speaker D: Awesome, awesome, awesome. Yeah, I'm digging this setup, man. Thank you for having us. Thank you for sure for having us here. Because this music is been 20 years in the making. Like, we've been in bands, a lot of different bands over years, breakups, dudes going to jail, things like that happening. So to be able to still be here doing it now, and I'm almost 40, I thank God for that. And just to keep pushing and, and pushing and seeing progress with the songs and progress in life, you know, I just want to say to anybody out there, keep going. If you want to do this music, keep going, keep going. Do your thing. You can do it. You got to figure out your own lane and stay in your lane. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you play guitar or bass or keys or do vocals and are looking for a band, come join, come join. Want to come hang out? Like, that's the beauty of the zoo, the whole gimmick zoo. Zoos have everything. [00:39:58] Speaker D: We want animals here. [00:39:59] Speaker A: You want to see elephants, we have. [00:40:02] Speaker D: Giraffe in the back. Hey, McGilla, pick up them cymbals. [00:40:06] Speaker A: We got people throughout the years come and try to play. One guy said, you guys need a better practice space. [00:40:13] Speaker D: Shitting on my space, bro. [00:40:15] Speaker A: Bro. I'm like, you're the one looking for the band. You know what I mean? Like, we've had singers come down and I guess, I guess we're just too good. We're too cocky for the people, brother. Step in the room. Got 18ft. [00:40:34] Speaker D: Fight twisted steel and sex appeal. [00:40:38] Speaker A: I'm going to gimmick mode, brother. But I want to thank you for having us on. Like, it's been awesome and hopefully more people can hear what we do and enjoy it and then maybe we inspire somebody. And if you want to wrestle, hit me up. I'll train you. [00:40:49] Speaker D: And you're going to get close line, though. You gonna get fucked up. [00:40:54] Speaker A: You'll get hit with that Topanga Unchained power. The best power slam in the business. [00:41:01] Speaker C: All right, so they are Zoo Green 6. I am Andy Scullen. This is unsigned 518. We'll see you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullen. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you'd like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee@buymeac coffee.com unsigned 518 if you would like to advertise on the show, send me an [email protected] and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram at unsigned518. Take care of one another and I'll see you next week.