[00:00:01] Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73 he loves park rock music fighting the 13th in the dazzle now on the beast guitar with a short whip radio back his motherfucking Andy scolding look at motherfucker cause here he comes Andy scrolling, wearing his or his hat all.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: Right, so welcome to unsigned 518. I am here with Lucas Garrett. Lucas, how's it going, man?
[00:00:34] Speaker C: How are you?
[00:00:36] Speaker B: You know, not too bad. It's, you know, and we've been in contact or crossed paths, I guess, so to speak, so many times. And it's taken a while to, like, schedule this. And it was funny. Cause the last guest that I had on earlier today, we had tried, I think, six different, you know, can you do this? No. Can you do. So I'm glad it finally worked out.
And we've certainly got a lot to talk about, you know, not only with your music, but your journalism. I mean, you know, certainly in the local area, there's. There's very few journalists that put as much of a focus on local music and do as sharp as a job as you do. So I want to thank you very much for that because you. You had thanked me before we got rolling, and I was like, you know, I'm not even going to say thank you to Lucas until we're rolling so it can go on record. But, yeah, so thank you for everything that you do to bring attention to the local scene as well.
[00:01:39] Speaker C: So I try, man. That's right.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: You do a hell of a job. But I guess right now what I want to do to start the conversation is to talk about your music, I guess, how you got started, how it's developed, I guess, leading up to. To now, but kind of, you know, tell. Tell the story how you want to tell it.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: Well, there's a couple of things that got me started.
Most of them are, some of them are not.
But when I was, we used to have a record player in my family room growing up, and we still have one, but my dad doesn't play as many records as he does, or any James, rather, back then. But I remember one day I was in my room and I heard it noise, and I had no idea what the heck it was I was hearing.
It turned out to be the Beatles and White album, and I was hooked ever since. You know, from there I started, I got a guitar, you know, one of those guitars that was guaranteed not to crack kind of thing.
It was a real piece of shit, but, you know, it served me well. And then from there, you know, I've had so many anything that I have had that line in music I owe to hundreds of people.
But from there, you know, I got hooked up with a guitar guy, a guitar teacher out of Fort Edwards.
I believe it's Fort Edwards. I'm terrible, you know, for Edward, for Ann. There's a lot of forts around here, but, um.
And I'm probably gonna kick myself in the ass later for getting it wrong, but I think it was for Edward. And anyway, the guy's name is Mike Morris, and, you know, he's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Anyway, so I took lesson with him for about three years, and that was from twelve to 15.
And from there, I just Thurman. You know, I had no foundation, so I just started learning from there. And I would play on to CCR and the Beatles and, you know, Aaron Clapton and all those guys.
And then, you know, I never went away that I sang growing up at all. I hated it.
So I had someone, uh, singing with me until I was about 18, you know, high school shit, you know, random battle in the band, stuff that I would never do now. My God.
But then someone, you know, when I'm 18 and, dude, you can sing, why? Why aren't you doing it on your own? You know, why am I not doing it on my own? And I went to some random open mic.
I even remember the date. It was February 21, 2012.
I did my first thing by myself, and from there it was my thanks.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: And so when did you, you know, like, starting, like, you know, as most people do, like, on acoustic guitar, I mean. Cause I did, like, the same thing, acoustic guitar, learning other people's songs. You know, it's a great way to, like, sink your teeth in. But I guess at what point, you know, because you said other people were singing, were you writing music that. Or basically, at what point did you start the writing songs of your own?
[00:05:54] Speaker C: So in 2012, I started doing my own. You know, I started singing on my own. And then from there, I was doing random quality house, rainbow, three shows with no thank you anymore.
But, you know, there were so many people. There was this, you know, I've seen probably hundreds of by now, but about five years into it, and after meeting the people call me houses and all that, things I went to school with, or. No, I didn't go to school, but we were all in the same general area, and the people. And came the ambulance and doing one of my things, you know, I'm starting, like, a million sentences right now, and I never finished one of them, I promise. But when I was first starting out and you, and they called me out saying someone heard me and said, email with this. You can do a vocal test and thing in the area at the factory they have there. And I got. I knew it. And my friend Jesse.
Jesse Moldock.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: All right. Base. Base for candy ambulance.
[00:07:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. At the time, there was no candy ambulance. I mean, I was around. I was around way before candy ambulance, even though.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: So where did you grow up?
[00:07:45] Speaker C: Cause didn't I grew up in Quinn's phones.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Oh, no kidding.
[00:07:49] Speaker C: Exactly. Went in the Queens area in the least.
But, you know, we were friends in the area. Battle in the vans, like I said, or whatever. One of those random things that kids in that age knew.
And we hooked up at. We found each other at local fence and we hooked up for a song, much to my dismay. Now I believe it was a wagon wheel that we ended up and doing. I can't tell you how many times I song never again, Andy.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: That's a good declaration.
[00:08:33] Speaker C: Unless someone saved me a million dollars or something.
But, you know, we hooked up with that and we saved in contact. And at the time, Jesse was doing believer in that.
All this folk music, you know, now and then about a year, and I see him and John, who I also knew John came to, you know, want to know every ounce of detail here.
And they started making music on Facebook. When this girl named Caitlin, I'm like, what? What's that? You know, and I listened to it and that made me say, what the hell is that? Because it was nothing like I had heard and remind you we were all doing that thing. We were all, you know, Jesse was in Carrie McNif.
I don't know if you know that band or not. That's a while ago.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: No, I'm not familiar.
[00:09:41] Speaker C: But, you know, we all knew about me. And then all of a sudden can the ambulance came on board as a thing that was really taking off in the area.
And once on Steve ambulance, you know, many people might have a different. Well, I don't agree with that assessment or whatever, but I really think that they were at the core of the diy scene.
They came up and then vans. William Hale came up and went on this musician, Asa Morris, who you've also talked with on other side.
One thing went to another. The details are a bit more. But we all started doing these shows together in the area.
Maybe some random benefits or, you know, putting them dead when it was dead not least, right? Don't get me starving on that.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: By the way, that conversation actually came up just last night with a couple.
[00:10:50] Speaker C: People gone, I really miss putting them in, and I think that's not diplomatic, and I can say that.
But, you know, we were doing all these shows, and definitely at the time, he was in Queensberry night, and he was like, why don't you record your song at my house?
And meanwhile, I was doing, you know, nine to hearing Andy, jeez, banging out and cover after cover. But, you know, I said, oh, I don't have any song. And he said, well, you don't want to want to eat viranium. And at the same time, and weirdly enough, I mean, like, trying to write something, and I've always been one of those winger army that, like, make their albums as they go. You know, I've never been like, I have three songs. Let me pick eight of them that I like. It's like, no, fuck that. I'm just gonna write it at every corner, right? So if I'm here into doing what I was doing, I made my first ep, and the name of that is evening come not dark.
So that was 2017, and I have a lot of friends on that album. You know, I've never. I've never had a particularly long lasting bands, right. And all men can liberalize around my.
So that had, you know, people like Rick Dalton from Saratoga, who also has an impressive history in his own right.
He's an amazing guy.
And Jesse made the album reform, and it might last him. But, you know, this is the thing that I'm talking about, Andy. We were all figuring out not only ourselves, but what we wanted to do in the industry, right. You know, not really made an album. I was, like, one of the.
No, I wasn't the first, but I was, like, one of the first that he was forming in mixed ambassadors. We were all like, does that sound good? No, that sounds like this. Like, okay, so how do we make it better? You know? Um, it was. It was a time in my life that I. Even though I had more, quote unquote, success. And now. And we can get into what that even means, right? Winners you want.
But that was a time in my life that I will always love and I will always remember fondly.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. Like, I didn't realize that you were that embedded. You know, I knew you had done some stuff with Caitlin, but I didn't realize that you went that far back with, like, candy ambulance, because, I mean, I don't know. I've made it pretty clear. I don't know if you're aware, but they're like, my fucking favorite. Like, I mean, yeah, yeah. Like, I love that band. Like, I didn't realize that that, uh, that you. That you went that far back with them. That's fucking cool.
[00:14:26] Speaker C: Yeah. I've known Jesse almost 21 now. I've known him for almost 17 years.
[00:14:33] Speaker B: Oh, wow. No shit. And his base, his bass playing, man. Like, you know, as someone who, like, you know, plays bass or whatever, like, his. His bass lines are so fucking tight. Like, so good.
Love that shit.
[00:14:48] Speaker C: Very, very well written. And, you know, the thing is, I got seen, you know, Justin grow up. I've got to see his playing evolve at mine pass. I mean, when we were quarantine, we fucking sucked.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: Right?
[00:15:05] Speaker C: We sucked. I mean, you, you know, and we. I thought I was playing pretty good, and now I went back and I'm like, man, I fucking sorry.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Right? And I wonder if that ever ends. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, like, looking back, you know, because you always, like, as a musician, as you evolve, you always look back at your earlier stuff and be like, I can do better. Like, I wonder if that ever ends, if you just get to a point.
That's a good attitude. I hope it doesn't. Yeah. So do we want to throw on a song? And, I mean, it can be from anywhere in your catalog. It certainly doesn't have to be chronological or whatever, but what do we want to play first?
[00:15:48] Speaker C: Let's, you know, let's start out with the last one. I put out going home. It came out on New Year's day.
Cool.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: So let's listen to going home, Lucas Garrett, and then we'll be right back.
[00:16:26] Speaker A: But you and when I come to your.
Where you live in forever.
[00:17:23] Speaker C: One breath.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: That came on me and when you're.
[00:17:36] Speaker C: Near going everywhere.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: You say you will leave me but you know it is hard I lean, lean from me.
[00:18:19] Speaker C: Leaning.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: On me wait, wait on me.
[00:19:28] Speaker C: Wonder.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: That ain't I lay the weight on.
[00:19:36] Speaker C: Me.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: And when you're near.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: All right, so that was going home, Lucas Garrett. So, Lucas, we were talking a little bit about, you know, you started writing your own music and putting stuff down and recording and releasing, and I guess, what do you have coming up in the near future?
[00:20:15] Speaker C: Thank you for asking. I appreciate that. You know, I'm very fortunate.
A semi Disney summer, and, you know, we're just getting started, as I said, you know, I play with a lot of different people.
You know, right now, I just. Yesterday, I don't know when this is airing, but yesterday I just got done with unit line me and works down in lots of.
And, you know, I'm playing with my brother Max now.
And Max is an amazing guy. Amazing brother.
He's older than I am. I'm the main man family.
But he had a master's in performing music and he's a teacher up in jobs for, you know, I'm very happy to be doing music with him and Julia also upside. And start doing shows and, you know, we're doing our thing.
We're gonna be doing some shows in North street.
And in June, in August, I am doing a summer concert series in John.
On the 25 July, me and Max are opening our morning Wendell.
So, you know, and there's a lot of other things I've been doing with Cindy Worthley.
We got one that's single cut on July 12.
So anyone that wants to learn more can just go to my website, lucasgarrettmusic.com.
i finally get lucasgarrett.com named, you know, a pesky lawyer in Arizona. The army has that.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: And I'll put the link to your site on the show notes, too, to make it. To make it easier to find. But fucking Lucas Garrett, the lawyer, why does he get the site?
He should be Lucasgarrett lawyer.com.
[00:22:47] Speaker C: And, you know, yeah, it would be a lot more convenient.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: It would be.
[00:22:53] Speaker C: What the fuck?
No, but funnily enough, there would be.
The reason why I know my witness now is there was a catholic singer, and I would get emails all the time asking me to come sing for them. It was hurt. I'm like, no, you should have just.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: Agreed and set it up.
[00:23:23] Speaker C: You know?
I don't think they went yet when they're fighting.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Oh, I meant to just not show up.
Just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll be there. I'll be there. Great. Make sure everything's ready for me.
[00:23:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Maybe we can play one of Luke Garrett songs on this podcast, right?
[00:23:46] Speaker B: Really fuck with everybody.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, wow. He's very into Jesus. Not that there's anything wrong with that, by the way.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: Do your own thing.
[00:23:55] Speaker C: Yeah, but you intros, we're all over the area. Given my, you know, being in a wheelchair and all of that and all that. More that I can't really tour.
Like, I would need a home base, right? And come home. You know, I blame it on my affair and my vet, but really, I just like sleeping on my own bed.
Yeah, no, I'm happy to be playing around the area and incorporated with so many friends that I met along the way, both in journalism and in music. You know, it's a great ride. Man, you got people like Erie and the trigger Holmes and everyone at the drive high guys are awesome.
[00:24:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:56] Speaker C: And you know, fans like the short wave like yourself and so much fucking music. Yeah. And it's great to be in part of it all, you know, this happened to me out there playing shows and writing music and, you know, like I said, it's a rotating cast and people that I have with me, but we all have that goal of making it the best we can. And so whether or not I'm doing a film with my brother Max or Julia or everyone, you know, all together or with this girl named Colette that I'm in with, it's a wild ride, you know, people like Sam Zucchini. I don't know. You know him.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: I do know. I do know him. Yeah. Great dude.
[00:25:50] Speaker C: Well, I met him 13 years ago now. Jesus Christ, what's happening to me, right?
I never thought that we'd make music together. I was always like the Zucchini brothers, you know, I love them. And now I'm like making music with him sometime and it just.
Everyone. It's just an awesome area. And there are detriments in the area that we don't need to go into.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:26:21] Speaker C: I wish people knew how to play in the sandbox number one another, but a lot of times they do. And that what I'm doing, Andy, is I'm just surrounding myself with the people that love music, love making music, love the art and love the respect for the art, you know, whether or not whoever I'm playing with, we have a high amount of respect for one another, you know?
And it's just wonderful. And a lot of times it's not wonderful, but right the moment is wonderful. It makes it worth it. Yeah, it certainly does to me. Opening Ramoni Wendell, he was like, been doing it for six years. Here I am complaining about doing this for 13 years, and that guy has been fucking doing this for the sixties. Yeah, it's just wonderful. You know, you got.
There's so many things out there in this area that it just makes it fun, you know?
[00:27:35] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. Like, I agree with everything and, like, that's why I love being in this community and don't necessarily, you know, and I know you were talking about other limitations about touring, but, like, I don't want to tour either. And it's because of the community that's here. You know what I mean? I'm like. I have friends, like, people that understand me here, you know, like, I know people. I see friendly faces, I know people at venues. Like, it's just like, here is such a community. And that's, to me personally, what makes me feel so great about the whole fucking scene is it's the people. And like, you know, and I don't necessarily have any.
As a musician, I don't have any aspirations to do much outside of this immediate area. I love what we're doing, you know, like, I love it.
[00:28:34] Speaker C: So randomly, this is how my brain works. But I'm looking at your hat, I'm looking at the microphone.
What is up with the color orange?
[00:28:45] Speaker B: The color orange, actually, it started because I like the color black. Like, if you see other than the pops of orange, I mean, I'm literally head to toe in black.
And when the band was like, kind of getting going and Abby, our trumpet player, she's been my friend for twelve or 13 years. And I was saying something about we're energetic and fun and like, you know, you know, want people to like. And she was like, but you wear all black, you know, shit. And was like, kind of like, that's not, that's not fun. You know, those aren't fun colors. You gotta add some color to your wardrobe. And I already had orange base strings like that, just like, because I like the color orange. So I just leaned into the color orange. And then when the podcast started, I made that little logo with the glasses and the hat, like kind of like the breaking bad, you know, it was like a play off the Breaking Bad thing or whatever. And then it fucking snow. I'll be honest with you, Lucas, it snowballed out of control.
[00:30:03] Speaker C: Now I got a new orange forever.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: Yes. That's. I mean, that's literally like, that's literally it. And like. Yeah, it's no bob out of control. It's a.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: People think he started wearing green.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: Right? I can't, like, I can't. It'll fuck everything up.
[00:30:21] Speaker C: You're too far in. Yeah, you're just. Fuck.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: I am definitely too far in. There's nothing I can do now, man.
But, you know, I mean, I still like the color. You know, it's still like, other than black. Like, because I like Halloween stuff. Like, you can't really see it, but, but way, way behind me is a bunch of Halloween.
Like the movie Halloween, like with Michael Myers. Like the original one. Yeah, that's like my, my jam that, like Friday the 13th.
[00:30:51] Speaker C: And, uh, I love the theme music for Halloween.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: Uh, yeah, yeah, me too. And, uh, I actually, a buddy of mine got me the Friday the 13th vinyl of the original soundtrack from Harry Manfredini and again, I love. That's one of the reasons I think where I loved Friday the 13th is because it's the music. Like, without the music, it's literally just shots of the fucking woods. You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's great music.
[00:31:22] Speaker C: So that is another thing I'm working on. I forgot to say, I'm starting to work very slowly, very deliberately. But I am nimbing my. So involved in the filmmaking aspects, really. And writing music here and there.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: Like scores.
[00:31:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm working on that.
I'm writing symphony or in college right now that they're gonna be using in their orchestra curriculum.
So, you know, I'm just keeping my hands busy, man.
[00:32:01] Speaker B: Cool. Before we go, should we play another song?
[00:32:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: Which one? Which one is this one?
[00:32:10] Speaker C: That's a good question, Andy. That is perhaps the hardest question you've asked.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:32:17] Speaker C: Let's do a track off of my last album. Let's do the last song, down we fall. And it was the concluding track on my last album that came out in 23 called Reefing Dreams.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: All right, sweet. Well, let's listen to down we fall, Lucas Garrett. And then we'll be right back to wrap it up.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: Moments come and you will find memory not leaving you past.
Look at the house we made.
The life I tried to make last night. You in the heart you made no plan we had.
And I lay in there.
I remember what we said.
No we all.
In the morning your eyes are spoons.
We touch upon the clock.
But the morning your eyes wants me back home.
Tonight the ain't drive me more. I could write all that you wish worth your dreams to me.
Then some Renoir slipped through the door.
You burn on the thirst into the unwin our memories.
I wake up with you by my memory. Remembering what we said down the wave of your eyes. What's beautiful tonight we can't ask the.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Clock.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: But the morning you will not be I love and you lay your.
[00:36:30] Speaker C: Hand.
[00:36:35] Speaker A: On my shoulders.
Then somehow turned into cloud, so that.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Was down we fall. Lucas Garrett and Lucas, I want to thank you so much for taking time out of your day to come on and talk with me. It was really cool to get to talk to you. And before we go, I just want to give you a chance to say what I refer to as your gratitude. So the microphone is all yours.
[00:38:14] Speaker C: Thank you, Andy. You know, thank you for having me on. I've known of you in the area for a while, my friend Mikey.
And I'm really happy with you. We got the new today.
I have a small idea of how busy you are. So I want to thank you for putting time in for a little while.
You know, you mentioned gravitude and yes, I'm all about gratitude first and foremost, no matter what I'm doing, I owe the majority of it to my parents, Mary and Rick Garrett.
They've helped me out with so much. Anything about me out and forgetting to mention them would be not good on my part because I am something I love.
But there's so many fans in the area and if I leave anyone out or if anyone else wanted, I don't mean to.
The fact that I have somebody to thank that I might miss someone in my eyes is pretty awesome.
But in no particular order was in network. I went to find the swinger home. I went to thank the people at drive I live especially Mikey continues to let me bother him whenever I want about random things.
The band Erie and TJ author. That guy's awesome.
No matter what he's going through, he always has time to listen to my crazy ramps and I hope he knows that. The same joke for him.
He has one of the best bands in the area. But that doesn't mean I don't like all the other bands out there. I don't want anyone thinking that.
Alec Lewis, also of dive. I've been working with him in the great sounds man and I've been working with him and getting sounds.
You can't go wrong with Alec and my friends that have been in my band along the way.
Handy ambulance just being dropped or encouraging me to give up my app and release my first album. I think it was about eight years ago now.
Everyone famous age with that wasn't a complete asshole. I want to thank you well, because we all know that there are assholes out there.
So many people that think I want to thank Sam Zucchini for being a racist dude.
Anyone that ever wanted to play guitar or any instrument, I want to thank them as well. And the world needs more music out there and I can go on and on and on and on. And as far as my colleagues, I want to thank Kiersten. You can be an awesome. Anyone that knows Kirsten's work, look her up without me. And lazy. She covers the area really well.
I want to congratulate her on her Emmy award and everyone that won an award that night.
Whether or not people are upset with some that won or something didn't win, everyone that won and everyone that was nominated deserved to win and be kind to each other. You know, this year started out a little rough.
A lot rough. It was very rough.
People can be very mean, and there's no need for that.
In 100 years, everyone's gonna be dead anyway, and none of it will matter. Do you really want to spend that time being mean to someone?
I don't think so. I don't think that gets anything done.
So just look out for one another, um, being kind to one another. And, you know, think about the one last thing I'll say, especially for musicians, and I'm not gonna name any names here, but certain people practicing that they need to be negative and insulting people.
Certain people.
There'd be even more amazing music, even more amazing music than there already is. So you know one another, be good to one another, and keep the music going, keep the art going, keep what makes you happy. As long as you're not hurting anyone, keep doing that, you know? And thank you again, Andy, for having me on, man.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: All right, so that is Lucas Garrett. I'm Andy Scullen. This is unsigned 518. I'll see you on the road.
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